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I agree with Yves, I'd say NO to both proposals too. It's not about which character to use, mind you -- the [[Hyphen List Markup Proposal]] make quite a few assumptions, including a particular implementation of the escape character. Besides, simply changing the character to be used doesn't really solve anything. OTOH, voting "no to hyphens" seems to imply that I'm against using hyphens for lists at all -- which is simply not true.
Then again, the poll seems to be a little complicated. Maybe we should prepare a [[Yet Another List Markup Proposal]] and vote? :) Or just choose between them:
* Creole 0.5
* [[Require Space After Bullet Proposal]]
* [[Hyphen List Markup Proposal]] + [[Escape Character Proposal]]
By the way, nobody made an [[Indented Nested Lists Proposal]], so I guess we are safe to skip them...
-- [[Radomir Dopieralski]], 2007-Apr-10
This poll seems way too complicated. If wiki developers can't submit their votes, something is wrong. Could you simplify this poll, so we could get a better feeling of opinions about 0.6?
-- [[Chuck Smith]], 2007-Apr-10
If it's too simple, the result will be no. I don't know whether you object to the openness or to the use of tables. Please do whatever you want to this poll (removing columns, lines, or the page itself).
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-10
What do you mean by the result being "no". I don't object to the openness, but I object to the complexity of the poll. It's so confusing that even if we get answers, I think they will be impossible to analyze.
-- [[Chuck Smith]], 2007-Apr-10
If we want a consensus, since I've rejected both the hyphen list and the escape character proposal (and so has Radomir), we won't get it. The only solution is to continue the discussions, but we don't know very well where we're going and when we should stop, as the withdrawal of 0.6 has shown.
The poll could have permitted us to discard proposals with strong disagreements, to accept proposals with only agreements/don't care, and to discuss the remaining ones, paying attention to arguments of people who disagreed.
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-11
I think the poll is a really great idea and nicely executed, as well! But I also feel the pain of people who want things to settle down. I would finish the poll regardless of what the consequences will be, because it will give an overview of where everyone stands. After that, there can be a discussion about what (if anything) to do about the poll results.
-- [[Axel Rauschmayer]], 2007-04-11
I also disagree with Christoph that this should be reduced to asterisk or hyphen. The poll is a bit complicated, yes, but asks a lot of correct questions. To me the question of hyphens cannot be separated from blanks after lead-character, or the way to indicate nesting (which is a major problem with the hyphen proposal, two and four hyphens already being used. I can live with leading hyphen plus blank, but am opposed to leading hyphen without trailing blank.
-- [[Gregor Hagedorn]]
Ok, lets vote this way then. Yes, since it is informal at least it gives us a feeling about how people think.
-- [[Christoph Sauer]], 2007-04-11
I'm glad to see it started. Concerning the replacement of 12345 with ABCDE, I'd rather not, since ABCDE is used for notations in some countries, and reversing it might cause confusion. I'll replace numbered notes with lowercase roman.
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-11
Version Date Modified Size Author Changes ... Change note
12 11-Apr-2007 09:02 4.76 kB YvesPiguet to previous Keep 12345, change note numbering to roman
11 11-Apr-2007 08:35 4.488 kB ChristophSauer to previous | to last lets vote then
10 11-Apr-2007 03:47 4.337 kB Gregor Hagedorn to previous | to last
9 11-Apr-2007 01:59 3.845 kB to previous | to last
8 11-Apr-2007 01:59 3.806 kB to previous | to last
7 11-Apr-2007 00:44 3.445 kB YvesPiguet to previous | to last Too bad
6 10-Apr-2007 23:52 2.886 kB ChuckSmith to previous | to last result being no?
5 10-Apr-2007 21:02 2.636 kB YvesPiguet to previous | to last
4 10-Apr-2007 20:50 2.395 kB ChuckSmith to previous | to last poll too complicated
3 10-Apr-2007 20:37 2.167 kB to previous | to last Three options?
2 10-Apr-2007 20:21 1.294 kB YvesPiguet to previous | to last In that case, NO and NO for me
1 10-Apr-2007 19:29 0.87 kB ChristophSauer to last this poll is not about the question at hand
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