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I'd like bring this topic back, as we probably need quoting. It's probably good to have both inline and block quotes. The fact that MSIE incorrectly ignores the <q> tags has nothing to do with it -- after all, there are many ways to actually render the quotes (see http://www.alistapart.com/articles/qtag/), and one doesn't even have to use HTML.
For inline quotes, we have four options:
* Try to detect quotes based on position of the characters and groups of characters commonly used for quoting, like "`", """, "''", ",,", ">>", "`", "``", "<<", etc. This is tricky even in normal text, especially when "'" is involved. It's even harder for jargon text that can contain various additional code (the code should be theoretically always contained in nowiki markup, but that's not always practiced). For example: {{{"quote"}}}, {{{'quote'}}}, {{{`quote'}}}, {{{''quote''}}}, {{{,,quote''}}}, {{{>>quote<<}}}, {{{<<quote>>}}}, {{{``quote''}}}, etc.
* Use formally defined markup for the quotes, resembling the one used traditionally, but more restricted, to ease parsing. For example, I use {{{,,quote''}}} on my wiki. This has a problem, as the "traditional" quoting characters are not supposed to be used in Creole for markup (see [Terms]).
* Use whatever markup is used for block quotes, the same way that preformated blocks and nowiki share markup, for example {{{[[[quote]]]}}}.
* Use formally defined, yet artifical markup, for example {{{~~quote~~}}}.
For block quotes, we have basically two possible approaches:
* Use a "leading" character or indentation on every line of the quoted text. This is especially known in e-mails, with the ">" or ":" characters, or a combination of them. Normally, the amount of characters signifies the nesting level of the quote, similar to lists in Creole. I don't think we need multilevel block quotes.
* Use a parenthesis-like syntax, similar to preformatted blocks in Creole. This makes it much easier to quote long texts, and also to adjust the line length of the pasted text.
I'm pretty confused as to what criteria should be considered most important when choosing markup for quotes. I don't know of any wiki engine that has markup for inline quotes by default. The block quote syntax present in some wiki engines is usually abused to form threaded discussions instead of quoting.
Any ideas?
-- RadomirDopieralski, 2006-12-30
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