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| == 30. April 2007 |
| I didn't sleep good last night. I was asking myself if I really did the right thing to advocate the HyphenListMarkupProposal, or if it simply would have been better to accept the [[BoldAndListsAmbiguity]], that is not too bad at all. Actually it all was handled well enough by the implementations, as the tests showed. I am also asking myself if I in fact was the one that was pushing it hard against all others, especially Radomir, Yves and Gregor, because I had hardly anyone except Chuck that was backing me up by comments of support. I know that critics are your best friends, so I really apologize if I was irritating you. |
| == 2008-Sep-23 |
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| The resistance against the hyphen is IMHO an indicator that people are emotionally bound to that character for that purpose (because it is so common in the wikiworld), and that not using it might indeed threaten the success of creole. Moreover, not having a consensus amongst the people that are currently working the hardest here in this wiki, that making up a large part of the community of this wiki right now, would be a bad mistake. We should not give the WMS Workshop credit over the people here, especially because most of the people of the WMS-Workshop did not even show up here. The reason why we (Chuck and I) put up Creole 1.0 now, was that not making a decision would be the worst thing at all. We need to come to an end. People want to start using creole, we should not wait any longer. I therefore would like to suggest the following steps to an consensus. |
| May I suggest to all contributors to discussion pages to sign with their name **and the date**, so that it's clear that the discussion is post-Creole 1.0? Thanks! |
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| # I personally would give up on the [[HyphenListMarkupProposal]], this shall be accepted if no one rejects it (this means if there is no strong opposition -- and if it is true that only Chuck and I where pushing it, this will happen). We then back up to the old ambiguity - after all its called Creole. |
| # We will extend the Timeframe of Creole 1.0. Please vote on [[Creole 1.0 Poll]] so that we get a feeling for this last iteration toward a final spec. We might even rename the current Creole 1.0 to 0.7 then, having one more iteration to talk about a) Seperate Monospaced Markup, b) MultilineListItems, c) EscapeCharater. The time frame will be fixed. We will then have a Creole 1.0 at the first of June. |
| -- [[YvesPiguet]] |
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| I am sorry if I appeared to not listen to the community. Maybe I wanted the best and did the worst, I didn't mean to. Nobody else so far wanted to take on that task of creating a common wiki markup, so you ended up with an amateur like me. I am sorry. I would suggest to vote someone this time, that takes the chair here. |
| == 2008-Apr-25 == |
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| We have reached so much, it would be a shame if we now stumble upon a hyphen. I hope we will all stick together a last time to bring this journey to an end. I think you all deserve this. |
| I suggest that Creole also specify markup for monospace text. Unlike {{{text}}}, the content |
| would be processed as other markup. XHTML would be <code>text</code>. |
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| Thank You |
| One possibility would be {{{[[[text]]]}}} although that may be ambiguous with {{{[[wikiname]]}}} |
| Another possibility would be {{{:::text:::}}} |
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| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-04-30 |
| For example, {{{:::monospace text with bold and italic and [[Proposals|links]]:::}}} |
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| == 27. April 2007 |
| Hi. |
| Just a short question: Are InterWiki-Links, like {{{[[WikiCreole:Creole1.0]]}}}, mandatory for an implementation of the WikiCreole 0.6 specification? |
| Thanks in advance!\\ |
| -- Martin Junghans |
| -- [[DavidBiesack]], 2008-Apr-25 |
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| To be honest, they haven't been discussed yet, so basically we don't know. On the other hand, [[ThereIsNoWrongWayToImplementCreole]], so nobody will kill you if you skip them -- at the worst, you get some users complaining that they miss it. |
| This is covered on the [[Additions]] page. The proposal is to use ##text to monospace##. |
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| -- [[RadomirDopieralski]], 2007-Apr-28 |
| -- [[StephenDay]], 2008-Apr-25 |
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| == 26. April 2007 |
| == 2008-Feb-27 |
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| I've added a new version of the CreolePageFilter to this wiki that also supports Wikipedia style signatures. This should make life easier here. I hope that this also shows that tilde as an escape character does not necessarily collide with signatures. I might though have to alter the date format... What do you prefer? |
| Strangely, the Creole 1.0 Test case does not get formatted as |
| expected in the Creole Sandbox. |
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| For example, spaces in front of list items are not allowed, just try |
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| --~~~ -> Signature |
| --~~~~ -> Signature + Date |
| * list item one |
| ** sub item |
| * list item two according to the spec, this should be a new list item at the same level as list item one |
| and this should still be part of list item two |
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| -- 132.199.240.207 |
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| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-04-26 |
| wikicreole.org doesn't implement Creole 1.0 yet. Please don't try to reproduce its behavior in your own implementation... |
|
| -- [[YvesPiguet]], 2008-Feb-27 |
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| == 2008-Feb-22 |
|
| The links to talk pages seem to have disappeared? |
|
| I don't know what you mean, do you mean the Discussion Tabs?. I can see them, has anyone else the same problem? |
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| Test: [[Talk.Talk]] [[Talk.Talk|Link to Talk]] |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2008-Feb-25 13:58 (CET) |
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| It's only visible when the user is logged in. |
|
| -- [[RadomirDopieralski]], 2008-Mar-01 |
|
| == 2008-Jan-12 |
|
| Though I have not yet been involved in this project, I took the liberty to create a Wikipedia entry [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_(markup)]] Hope nobody minds. And didn't know where else to put this info. |
|
| -- [[TobiasSchaechtelin]], 2008-Jan-12 |
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| Certainly nobody minds here :). And this is the right place to put that info. Welcome Tobias and thanks for the entry in Wikipedia! |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2008-Jan-13 10:27 (CET) |
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| Yes, thanks for the article. I hope it stays up. :) |
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| -- [[ChuckSmith]], 2008-Jan-13 12:03 (CET) |
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| Yes, very good initiative, thanks! |
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| //Including Creole in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language could be the next step?// : yes, I think the more links, the more likely the page is going to stay and be found. |
|
| --[[YvesPiguet]], 2008-Jan-14 |
|
| Thanks for the warm welcome. I added Creole to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language]] and did some work on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikitext]], which is the main article for wiki markup. You're welcome to revise it, since I might have missed some important points there. I will add some more cross references on the German and English Wikipedia - maybe there are other people who could do so for other languages? |
|
| -- [[TobiasSchaechtelin]], 2008-Jan-15 01:02 (CET) |
|
| == 2007-Dec-17 |
|
| Tired of fighting with cats. Really tired. Can't get through. If this one succeeds it's a miracle. |
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| Is there way to communicate with site's team other than through the cats? Takes too much time to pass them. |
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| [[Engines]] page is spoiled and I can't restore it because of cats. |
|
| -- YaroslavStavnichiy |
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| You need to e-mail ChristophSauer, he's got the backdoor keys. I'm working on a synchronized backup wiki on a different engine (Creole makes it possible), but it goes slowly. |
|
| -- RadomirDopieralski |
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| Sorry for the inconvenience, Yaroslav and others. I disabled the captcha again. I hope we will handle the spam without it, the cats are anyway not working like expected. I just checked in fixes for the Creole Filter into the JSPWiki trunk (JSPWiki 2.6) and will start next year to port our template to JSPWiki 2.6. Hope the switch to the new version will then solve our spam problems. |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Dez-19 15:16 (CET) |
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| == 2007-Nov-28 |
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| You should discard edits where the main article hasn't been changed at all; they serve only |
| to put spam in the subject field. |
|
| -- [[YvesPiguet]] |
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| Actually i should fix that bug by installing the new version of JSPWiki. It's on my looong list... |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Nov-29 11:06 (CET) |
|
| == 2007-Nov-20 |
|
| Server is up again. After 5 years of duty our central switch died yesterday. RIP. |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Nov-20 14:01 (CET) |
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| == 2007-Nov-18 |
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| I wonder if we could call any of the implementations a ReferenceImplementation? If not, what would have to be added to the existing ones? -- RadomirDopieralski |
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| The question is in what programming language should the reference implementation be? I don't want to give the impression that we have a bias for a particular "religion". |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Nov-18 07:28 (CET) |
|
| == 2007-Oct-28 |
|
| The captcha is not working. When I submit the cats it just goes back to the edit page. The only reason I can add this is because the capcha never kicked in. |
|
| -- Stephen Day |
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| == 2007-Oct-15 |
|
| I've added a patch (backport from a current 2.5 beta feature, thanks to Janne) that enables captcha, so you might have to select kittens ;). Currently it seems that it does not save your edit even if you identify the captcha corrently, but at least it does not lock you out, I also enabled Akismet again... |
|
| -- [[Christoph Sauer]], 2007-Okt-15 19:04 (CEST) |
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| == 2007-Oct-12 |
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| It's been very quite since Christoph tightened the wiki access. But since there had already been less useful |
| edits since the release of Creole 1.0, it's hard to say if potential editors find the access too difficult, if everyone |
| finds Creole 1.0 perfect, or if everybody gave up... |
|
| Could we have a new irc meeting to get an idea of how Creole is deployed? |
|
| -- [[YvesPiguet]] |
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| I just opened it again. Yes lets have one this week. |
|
| -- [[Christoph Sauer]], 2007-Okt-15 12:07 (CEST) |
|
| == 2007-Sep-27 |
|
| Yesterday we had a spambot attack. The attacker used multiple IP's and created hundreds of accounts, and of course spamed alot of pages. It seemed to be a general attack against JSPWiki installations. I don't know yet how to protect against this, other than locking the page down, only allowing edits from accounts I gave edit permissions. I will give every account editor rights, that drops me a note and therefore proofs to me that he is not a stupid script. So if you have something important to say, just drop me a note and I'll give you editor rights. |
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| Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll open this wiki again as soon as I have a appropriate patch to protect against this stupidity. For now it's more important that everyone can read the stable spec without spam. |
|
| -- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Sep-27 13:26 (CEST) |
|
| It seems to be completely locked if you haven't registered. Previously, I was recognized even if I wasn't authenticated (I think that at the beginning of 2007, I had to authenticate to have my contributions properly attributed); now I'm redirected to the login page until I've entered my password, even before trying to edit anything. |
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| Shouldn't this wiki be read-only for unregistered visitors? |
|
| -- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Sep-28 |
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| Correction: I've tried from another computer (a virtual one actually), and I can read pages. So the problem exists only when my authentification has expired (not important). |
|
| -- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Sep-28 |
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| Yes, try to view the page from a browser that does not remember you (by cookie), you should be able to view the pages. The strange thing is that as soon as you have logged in, JSPWiki 2.4 requires you to log in, even if one set the policy to give view rights to everybody. If you entered a wrong login, JSPWiki will show you the rejected message, but if you continue, you will be able to view the pages (like expected). This only happens in this current configuration where you grant view rights to all, and edit rights only to users which where granted a special role. This seems to be a bug in JSPWiki. |
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| --Christoph |
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| No problem, that's a minor issue compared to the permanent spam and vandalism threat. Thanks. |
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