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Please write your opinions of Creole 0.1 here. --Chuck Smith
I think nested lists were not agreed upon. They should go. I also think that the section about preformatted text is ambiguous. It does not differentiate between preformatted and unprocessed, and yet it says that it will work in-line and as a block. But what is preformatted + inline supposed to mean? Clearly whitespace cannot be significant in-line! (One reason being that you cannot nest a pre element inside a p element!)
Which is why Janne & I suggested that triple braces as a block will produce preformatted and unprocessed text (pre element, no processing), where as triple braces inline will produce unprocessed text (span element, no processing).
I think the only other alternative that makes sense is that triple braces inline will produce monospaced & unprocessed text (code or tt element, no processing).
We did indeed agree on nested lists about an hour and a half into the workshop and no one opposed them. Nested lists are very useful and we think they should stay.
You are correct about in-line and pre. I made some changes. Does the current state of pre on Creole 0.1 satisfy you?
-- ChuckSmith
If I understand correctly, we now must detect the raw URLs in text and mark them up, right? Good thing there is a ready regular expression for url
. But it adds a lot of complexity.
-- RadomirDopieralski, 2006-09-06
How does detecting raw URLs add so much complexity? I mean, even Ward's wiki did it since the beginning from what I remember... --ChuckSmith
It is complex if you want to be correct at all times. Most software just uses some kind of heuristics -- sometimes better, sometimes worse. As the exact solution is rather out of our reach, maybe we should just leave it up to the developers?
Right now I use a simple algorithm: Anything that starts with a protocl name (from a short list) and a colon is treated as url, up to but not including, a space or a punctuation character (like comma or full stop) followed by a space. Or end of line, of course.
But this is not 100% in accordance with the specification, is it?
-- RadomirDopieralski, 2006-09-06
I think that's fine. --ChuckSmith, 2006-09-06
I'm happy with the preformatted stuff. Thanks!
As for nested lists, I'd like to stick to what Lists starts with: "Only one level lists are supported in v0.1 (i.e. no sublevels and no mixed unordered and ordered lists)." -- AlexSchroeder
Oops, I have deleted that now. I meant to erase that before, because multi-level lists were decided upon at WikiSym with no opposition. Well, except for you opposing it now. I also noticed that nested lists even work already on Oddmuse, so I don't really see what the problem is. If you know anyone else who also does not want multi-level lists, we could consider changing it, but all wikis that I know support multi-level lists, so it seems to be a basic feature. --ChuckSmith