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Here is a page to discuss an outline for the Wikisym 2007 Workshop on Promoting Creole. For a concise summary, please see our news entry.

Why Use Wiki Markup? #

  • reliable
  • accessibility (blind users)

When to use WYSIWYG? #

  • Non-technical users want them.
  • Non-technical users don't want to learn markup.

Evaluation #

  • How many people are aware of Creole?
  • How many people are using it? 50. The WikiCreole community and their friends.


  • Make a survey on wikicreole.org.
  • Link to it from wikimatrix, wikipatterns, from people we meet at WikiSym, blogs, etc.

Testing #

  • What tests have been done for Creole?
  • What can be learned from them?
  • What isn't working in Creole?

Answer: Potential roadblocks are escaping and lists. These problems could be alleviated by better communication between implementers through a mailing list, for example.

Implementation #

  • Formal grammars?
  • Creole validator?

Promotional Ideas #

  • How can we elevate Creole, so clients demand it from vendors?
  • Introducing Creole to W3C? - Dirk Riehle will look into that.
  • Contacting influential markup developers for support. - Mark Bernstein will look into this.
  • Ask for testimonials.
  • Making WikiCreole.org for decision-makers
  • WordPress plugin? - Chuck will look into a PHP evangelist.
  • Create Implementation Issues page for implementers looking for support.

Relation to other markups #

  • How does WikiCreole relate, in the long run, to Markdown or Textile?

Creole is more suitable for wikis and for collaborative editing.

  • In ten years, will these be interchange formats, or will we still be encoding markup?

We need converters between these lightweight markups, perhaps through a bridge markup like XML or WikiByte.

Promotional materials #

  • Translating CheatSheet to other languages
  • Logo - Andi G will ask colleague
  • Technical magazine articles
    • Analysis of Survey
    • Need for Creole
    • Details about Design Decisions
  • T-Shirts

User Education #

  • Survey
  • Handbooks
  • Online videos
  • Workshops

Financing #

  • Who is willing to donate?
  • What organization would handle the money?
  • Printing t-shirts
  • Paying designers
  • Paying Creole developers

Communication #

Outcomes #

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